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第38章

  Itbecomesaquestionoflifeanddeathforsocietytoadaptthemodeofproductiontothenormalfunctioningofthislaw。ModernIndustry,indeed,compelssociety,underpenaltyofdeath,toreplacethedetail—workerofto—day,grappledbylife—longrepetitionofoneandthesametrivialoperation,andthusreducedtothemerefragmentofaman,bythefullydevelopedindividual,fitforavarietyoflabours,readytofaceanychangeofproduction,andtowhomthedifferentsocialfunctionsheperforms,arebutsomanymodesofgivingfreescopetohisownnaturalandacquiredpowers。
  Onestepalreadyspontaneouslytakentowardseffectingthisrevolutionistheestablishmentoftechnicalandagriculturalschools,andof"écolesd’enseignementprofessionnel,"inwhichthechildrenoftheworking—menreceivesomelittleinstructionintechnologyandinthepracticalhandlingofthevariousimplementsoflabour。ThoughtheFactoryAct,thatfirstandmeagreconcessionwrungfromcapital,islimitedtocombiningelementaryeducationwithworkinthefactory,therecanbenodoubtthatwhentheworking—classcomesintopower,asinevitablyitmust,technicalinstruction,boththeoreticalandpractical,willtakeitsproperplaceintheworking—classschools。Thereisalsonodoubtthatsuchrevolutionaryregents,thefinalresultofwhichistheabolitionoftheolddivisionoflabour,arediametricallyopposedtothecapitalisticformofproduction,andtotheeconomicstatusofthelabourercorrespondingtothatform。Butthehistoricaldevelopmentoftheantagonisms,immanentinagivenformofproduction,istheonlywayinwhichthatformofproductioncanbedissolvedandanewformestablished。"Nesutorultracrepidam"?thisnecplusultraofhandicraftwisdombecamesheernonsense,fromthemomentthewatchmakerWattinventedthesteam—engine,thebarberArkwright,thethrostle,andtheworking—jeweller,Fulton,thesteamship;[228]
  SolongasFactorylegislationisconfinedtoregulatingthelabourinfactories,manufactories,&c。,itisregardedasamereinterferencewiththeexploitingrightsofcapital。Butwhenitcomestoregulatingtheso—called"home—labour,"[229]itisimmediatelyviewedasadirectattackonthepatriapotestas,onparentalauthority。Thetender—heartedEnglishParliamentlongaffectedtoshrinkfromtakingthisstep。Theforceoffacts,however,compelleditatlasttoacknowledgethatmodernindustry,inoverturningtheeconomicfoundationonwhichwasbasedthetraditionalfamily,andthefamilylabourcorrespondingtoit,hadalsounloosenedalltraditionalfamilyties。Therightsofthechildrenhadtobeproclaimed。ThefinalreportoftheCh。
  Empl。Comm。of1866,states:"Itisunhappily,toapainfuldegree,apparentthroughoutthewholeoftheevidence,thatagainstnopersonsdothechildrenofbothsexessomuchrequireprotectionasagainsttheirparents。"Thesystemofunlimitedexploitationofchildren’slabouringeneralandtheso—calledhome—labourinparticularis"maintainedonlybecausetheparentsareable,withoutcheckorcontrol,toexercisethisarbitraryandmischievouspowerovertheiryoungandtenderoffspring……
  Parentsmustnotpossesstheabsolutepowerofmakingtheirchildrenmere’machinestoearnsomuchweeklywage……’Thechildrenandyoungpersons,therefore,inallsuchcasesmayjustifiablyclaimfromthelegislature,asanaturalright,thatanexemptionshouldbesecuredtothem,fromwhatdestroysprematurelytheirphysicalstrength,andlowerstheminthescaleofintellectualandmoralbeings。"[230]Itwasnot,however,themisuseofparentalauthoritythatcreatedthecapitalisticexploitation,whetherdirectorindirect,ofchildren’slabour;
  but,onthecontrary,itwasthecapitalisticmodeofexploitationwhich,bysweepingawaytheeconomicbasisofparentalauthority,madeitsexercisedegenerateintoamischievousmisuseofpower。
  Howeverterribleanddisgustingthedissolution,underthecapitalistsystem,oftheoldfamilytiesmayappear,nevertheless,modernindustry,byassigningasitdoesanimportantpartintheprocessofproduction,outsidethedomesticsphere,towomen,toyoungpersons,andtochildrenofbothsexes,createsaneweconomicfoundationforahigherformofthefamilyandoftherelationsbetweenthesexes。Itis,ofcourse,justasabsurdtoholdtheTeutonic—ChristianformofthefamilytobeabsoluteandfinalasitwouldbetoapplythatcharactertotheancientRoman,theancientGreek,ortheEasternformswhich,moreover,takentogetherformaseriesinhistoricaldevelopment。Moreover,itisobviousthatthefactofthecollectiveworkinggroupbeingcomposedofindividualsofbothsexesandallages,mustnecessarily,undersuitableconditions,becomeasourceofhumanedevelopment;althoughinitsspontaneouslydeveloped,brutal,capitalisticform,wherethelabourerexistsfortheprocessofproduction,andnottheprocessofproductionforthelabourer,thatfactisapestiferoussourceofcorruptionandslavery。[231]
  ThenecessityforageneralisationoftheFactoryActs,fortransformingthemfromanexceptionallawrelatingtomechanicalspinningandweaving?thosefirstcreationsofmachinery?intoalawaffectingsocialproductionasawhole,arose,aswehaveseen,fromthemodeinwhichModernIndustrywashistoricallydeveloped。Intherearofthatindustry,thetraditionalformofmanufacture,ofhandicraft,andofdomesticindustry,isentirelyrevolutionised;manufacturesareconstantlypassingintothefactorysystem,andhandicraftsintomanufactures;andlastlp;thespheresofhandicraftandofthedomesticindustriesbecome,ina,comparativelyspeaking,wonderfullyshorttime,densofmiseryinwhichcapitalisticexploitationobtainsfreeplayforthewildestexcesses。Therearetwocircumstancesthatfinallyturnthescale:first,theconstantlyrecurringexperiencethatcapital,sosoonasitfindsitselfsubjecttolegalcontrolatonepoint,compensatesitselfallthemorerecklesslyatotherpoints;[232]secondly,thecryofthecapitalistsforequalityintheconditionsofcompetition,i。e。,forequalrestrainonallexploitationoflabour。[233]Onthispointletuslistentotwoheart—brokencries。Messrs。CooksleyofBristol,nailandchain,&c。,manufacturers,spontaneouslyintroducedtheregulationsoftheFactoryActintotheirbusiness。"Astheoldirregularsystemprevailsinneighbouringworks,theMessrs。Cooksleyaresubjecttothedisadvantageofhavingtheirboysenticedtocontinuetheirlabourelsewhereafter6
  p。m。’This,’theynaturallysay,’isanunjusticeandlosstous,asitexhaustsaportionoftheboy’sstrength,ofwhichweoughttohavethefullbenefit。"[234]Mr。J。Simpson(paperboxandbagmaker,London)statesbeforethecommissionersoftheCh。Empl。Comm。:"Hewouldsignanypetitionforit"(legislativeinterference)……"Asitwas,healwaysfeltrestlessatnight,whenhehadclosedhisplace,lestothersshouldbeworkinglaterthanhimandgettingawayhisorders。"[235]Summarising,theCh。Empl。Comm。says:"Itwouldbeunjusttothelargeremployersthattheirfactoriesshouldbeplacedunderregulation,whilethehoursoflabourinthesmallerplacesintheirownbranchofbusinesswereundernolegislativerestriction。Andtotheinjusticearisingfromtheunfairconditionsofcompetition,inregardtohours,thatwouldbecreatedifthesmallerplacesofworkwereexempt,wouldbeaddedthedisadvantagetothelargermanufacturers,offindingtheirsupplyofjuvenileandfemalelabourdrawnofftotheplacesofworkexemptfromlegislation。Further,astimuluswouldbegiventothemultiplicationofthesmallerplacesofwork,whicharealmostinvariablytheleastfavourabletothehealth,comfort,education,andgeneralimprovementofthepeople。"[236]
  InitsfinalreporttheCommissionproposestosubjecttotheFactoryActmorethan1,400,000children,youngpersons,andwomen,ofwhichnumberaboutonehalfareexploitedinsmallindustriesandbytheso—calledhome—work。[237]Itsays,"ButifitshouldseemfittoParliamenttoplacethewholeofthatlargenumberofchildren,youngpersonsandfemalesundertheprotectivelegislationaboveadvertedto……itcannotbedoubtedthatsuchlegislationwouldhaveamostbeneficenteffect,notonlyupontheyoungandthefeeble,whoareitsmoreimmediateobjects,butuponthestilllargerbodyofadultworkers,whowouldinalltheseemployments,bothdirectlyandindirectly,comeimmediatelyunderitsinfluence。Itwouldenforceuponthemregularandmoderatehours;itwouldleadtotheirplacesofworkbeingkeptinahealthyandcleanlystate;itwouldthereforehusbandandimprovethatstoreofphysicalstrengthonwhichtheirownwell—beingandthatofthecountrysomuchdepends;itwouldsavetherisinggenerationfromthatoverexertionatanearlyagewhichunderminestheirconstitutionsandleadstoprematuredecay;finally,itwouldensurethem?atleastuptotheageof13?theopportunityofreceivingtheelementsofeducation,andwouldputanendtothatutterignorance……gofaithfullyexhibitedintheReportsofourAssistantCommissioners,andwhichcannotberegardedwithoutthedeepestpain,andaprofoundsenseofnationaldegradatiop;[238]
  TheToryCabinet[239]announcedintheSpeechfromtheThrone,onFebruary5,1867,thatithadframedtheproposalsoftheIndustrialCommissionofInquiry[240]intoBills。Togetthatfar,anothertwentyyearsofexperimentumincorporevilihadbeenrequired。Alreadyin1840aParliamentaryCommissionofInquiryonthelabourofchildrenhadbeenappointed。ItsReport,in1842,unfolded,inthewordsofNassauW。Senior,"themostfrightfulpictureofavarice,selfishnessandcrueltyonthepartofmastersandofparents,andofjuvenileandinfantilemisery,degradationanddestructioneverpresented……Itmaybesupposedthatitdescribesthehorrorsofapastage。Butthereisunhappilyevidencethatthosehorrorscontinueasintenseastheywere。ApamphletpublishedbyHardwickeabout2yearsagostatesthattheabusescomplainedofin1842,areinfullbloomatthepresentday。Itisastrangeproofofthegeneralneglectofthemoralsandhealthofthechildrenoftheworking—class,thatthisreportlayunnoticedfor20years,duringwhichthechildren,’bredupwithouttheremotestsignofcomprehensionastowhatismeantbythetermmorals,whohadneitherknowledge,norreligion,nornaturalaffection,’wereallowedtobecometheparentsofthepresentgeneration。"[241]
  Thesocialconditionshavingundergoneachange,ParliamentcouldnotventuretoshelvethedemandsoftheCommissionof1862,asithaddonethoseoftheCommissionof1840。Hencein1864,whentheCommissionhadnotyetpublishedmorethanapartofitsreports,theearthenwareindustries(includingthepotteries),makersofpaperhangings,matches,cartridges,andcaps,andfustiancuttersweremadesubjecttotheActsinforceinthetextileindustries。IntheSpeechfromtheThrone,on5thFebruary,1867,theToryCabinetofthedayannouncedtheintroductionofBills,foundedonthefinalrecommendationsoftheCommission,whichhadcompleteditslaboursin1866。
  Onthe15thAugust,1867,theFactoryActsExtensionAct,andonthe21stAugust,theWorkshops’RegulationActreceivedtheRoyalAssent;theformerActhavingreferencetolargeindustries,thelattertosmall。
  Theformerappliestoblast—furnaces,iron’andcoppermills,foundries,machineshops,metalmanufactories,gutta—perchaworks,papermills,glass—works,tobaccomanufactories,letter—pressprinting(includingnewspapers),book—binding,inshorttoallindustrialestablishmentsoftheabovekind,inwhich50
  individualsormoreareoccupiedsimultaneously,andfornotlessthan100daysduringtheyear。
  TogiveanideaoftheextentofthesphereembracedbytheWorkshops’
  RegulationActinitsapplication,wecitefromitsinterpretationclause,thefollowingpassages:
  "Handicraftshallmeananymanuallabourexercisedbywayoftrade,orforpurposesofgainin,orincidentalto,themakinganyarticleorpartofanarticle,orin,orincidentalto,thealtering,repairing,ornamenting,finishing,orotherwiseadaptingforsaleanyarticle。"
  "Workshopshallmeananyroomorplacewhateverintheopenairorundercover,inwhichanyhandicraftiscarriedonbyanychild,youngperson,orwoman,andtowhichandoverwhichthepersonbywhomsuchchild,youngperson,orwomanisemployed,hastherightofaccessandcontrol。"
  "Employedshallmeanoccupiedinanyhandicraft,whetherforwagesornot,underamasterorunderaparentashereindefined。"
  "Parentshallmeanparent,guardian,orperson,havingthecustodyof,orcontrolover,any……childoryoungperson。"
  Clause7,whichimposesapenaltyforemploymentofchildren,youngpersons,andwomen,contrarytotheprovisionsoftheAct,subjectstofines,notonlytheoccupieroftheworkshop,whetherparentornot,buteven"theparentof,orthepersonderivinganydirectbenefitfromthelabourof,orhavingthecontrolover,thechild,youngpersonorwoman。
  "
  TheFactoryActsExtensionAct,whichaffectsthelargeestablishments,derogatesfromtheFactoryActbyacrowdofviciousexceptionsandcowardlycompromiseswiththemasters。
  TheWorkshops’RegulationAct,wretchedinallitsdetails,remainedadeadletterinthehandsofthemunicipalandlocalauthoritieswhowerechargedwithitsexecution。When,in1871,Parliamentwithdrewfromthemthispower,inordertoconferitontheFactoryInspectors,towhoseprovinceitthusaddedbyasinglestrokemorethanonehundredthousandworkshops,andthreehundredbrickworks,carewastakenatthesametimenottoaddmorethaneightassistantstotheiralreadyundermannedstaff。[242]
  Whatstrikesus,then,intheEnglishlegislationof1867,is,ontheonehand,thenecessityimposedontheparliamentoftherulingclasses,ofadoptinginprinciplemeasuressoextraordinary,andonsogreatascale,againsttheexcessesofcapitalisticexploitation;andontheotherhand,thehesitation,therepugnance,andthebadfaith,withwhichitlentitselftothetaskofcarryingthosemeasuresintopractice。
  TheInquiryCommissionof1862alsoproposedanewregulationoftheminingindustry,anindustrydistinguishedfromothersbytheexceptionalcharacteristicthattheinterestsoflandlordandcapitalisttherejoinhands。TheantagonismofthesetwointerestshadbeenfavourabletoFactorylegislation,whileontheotherhandtheabsenceofthatantagonismissufficienttoexplainthedelaysandchicaneryofthelegislationonmines。
  TheInquiryCommissionof1840hadmaderevelationssoterrible,soshocking,andcreatingsuchascandalalloverEurope,thattosalveitsconscienceParliamentpassedtheMiningActof1842,inwhichitlimiteditselftoforbiddingtheemploymentundergroundinminesofchildrenunder10yearsofageandfemales。
  ThenanotherAct,TheMines’InspectingActof1860,providesthatminesshallbeinspectedbypublicofficersnominatedspeciallyforthatpurpose,andthatboysbetweentheagesof10and12yearsshallnotbeemployed,unlesstheyhaveaschoolcertificate,orgotoschoolforacertainnumberofhours。ThisActwasacompletedeadletterowingtotheridiculouslysmallnumberofinspectors,themeagrenessoftheirpowers,andothercausesthatwillbecomeapparentasweproceed。
  OneofthemostrecentBluebooksonminesisthe"ReportfromtheSelectCommitteeonMines,togetherwith&c。Evidence,23rdJuly,1866。"ThisReportistheworkofaParliamentaryCommitteeselectedfrommembersoftheHouseofCommons,andauthorisedtosummonandexaminewitnesses。ItisathickfoliovolumeinwhichtheReportitselfoccupiesonlyfivelinestothiseffect;thatthecommitteehasnothingtosay,andthatmorewitnessesmustbeexamined!
  ThemodeofexaminingthewitnessesremindsoneofthecrossexaminationofwitnessesinEnglishcourtsofjustice,wheretheadvocatetries,bymeansofimpudent,unexpected,equivocalandinvolvedquestions,putwithoutconnexion,tointimidate,surprise,andconfoundthewitness,andtogiveaforcedmeaningtotheanswersextortedfromhim。Inthisinquirythemembersofthecommitteethemselvesarethecross—examiners,andamongthemaretobefoundbothmine—ownersandmineexploiters;thewitnessesaremostlyworkingcoalminers。Thewholefarceistoocharacteristicofthespiritofcapital,nottocallforafewextractsfromthisReport。
  ForthesakeofconcisenessIhaveclassifiedthem。ImayalsoaddthateveryquestionanditsanswerarenumberedintheEnglishBluebooks。
  1。Employmentinminesofboysof10yearsandupwards。?Intheminesthework,inclusiveofgoingandreturning,usuallylasts14
  or15hours,sometimesevenfrom3,4and5o’clocka。m。,till5and6
  o’clockp。m。(n。6,452,83)。Theadultsworkintwoshifts,ofeighthourseach;butthereisnoalternationwiththeboys,onaccountoftheexpense(n。80,203,204)。Theyoungerboysarechieflyemployedinopeningandshuttingtheventilatingdoorsinthevariouspartsofthemine;theolderonesareemployedonheavierwork。incarryingcoal,&c。(n。122,739,1747)。Theyworktheselonghoursundergrounduntiltheir18thor22ndyear,whentheyareputtominer’sworkproper(n。161)。Childrenandyoungpersonsareatpresentworsetreated,andharderworkedthanatanypreviousperiod(n。1663—1667)。TheminersdemandalmostunanimouslyanactofParliamentprohibitingtheemploymentinminesofchildrenunder14。AndnowHusseyVivian(himselfanexploiterofmines)asks:"Wouldnottheopinionoftheworkmandependuponthepovertyoftheworkman’sfamily?"Mr。Bruce:
  "Doyounotthinkitwouldbeaveryhardcase,whereaparenthadbeeninjured,orwherehewassickly,orwhereafatherwasdead,andtherewasonlyamother,topreventachildbetween12and14earning1s。7d。
  adayforthegoodofthefamily?……Youmustlaydownageneralrule?……Areyoupreparedtorecommendlegislationwhichwouldpreventtheemploymentofchildrenunder12and14,whateverthestateoftheirparentsmightbe?""Yes。"(ns。107—110)。Vivian:"Supposingthatanenactmentwerepassedpreventingtheemploymentofchildrenundertheageof14,woulditnotbeprobablethat……theparentsofchildrenwouldseekemploymentfortheirchildreninotherdirections,forinstance,inmanufacture?""NotgenerallyIthink"(n。174)。Kinnaird:"Someoftheboysarekeepersofdoors?""Yes。""Istherenotgenerallyaverygreatdraughteverytimeyouopenadoororclos;it?""Yes,generallythereis。""Itsoundsaveryeasything,butitisinfactratherapainfulone?"
  "Heisimprisonedtherejustthesameasifhewasinacellofagaol。"
  BourgeoisVivian:"Wheneveraboyisfurnishedwithalampcannotheread?"
  "Yes,hecanread,ifhefindshimselfincandles……Isupposehewouldbefoundfaultwithifhewerediscoveredreading;heistheretomindhisbusiness,hehasadutytoperform,andhehastoattendtoitinthefirstplace,andIdonotthinkitwouldbealloweddownthepit。"(ns。
  139,141,143,158,160)。
  II。Education。?Theworkingminerswantalawforthecompulsoryeducationoftheirchildren,asinfactories。TheydeclaretheclausesoftheActof1860,whichrequireaschoolcertificatetobeobtainedbeforeemployingboysof10and12yearsofage,tobequiteillusory。Theexaminationofthewitnessesonthissubjectistrulydroll。"Isit(theAct)requiredmoreagainstthemastersoragainsttheparents?""ItisrequiredagainstbothIthink。""Youcannotsaywhetheritisrequiredagainstonemorethanagainsttheother?""No;Icanhardlyanswerthatquestion。"(ns。
  115,116)。"Doesthereappeartobeanydesireonthepartoftheemployersthattheboysshouldhavesuchhoursastoenablethemtogotoschool?"
  "No;thehoursarenevershortenedforthatpurpose。"(n。137)Mr。Kinnaird:
  "Shouldyousaythatthecolliersgenerallyimprovetheireducation;haveyouanyinstancesofmenwhohave,sincetheybegantowork,greatlyimprovedtheireducation,ordotheynotrathergoback,andloseanyadvantagethattheymayhavegained?""Theygenerallybecomeworse:theydonotimprove;
  theyacquirebadhabits;theygetontodrinkingandgamblingandsuchlike,,andtheygocompletelytowreck。"(n。211。)"Dotheymakeanyattemptofthekind(forprovidinginstruction)byhavingschoolsatnight?""Therearefewcollierieswherenightschoolsareheld,andperhapsatthosecollieriesafewboysdogotothoseschools;buttheyaresophysicallyexhaustedthatitistonopurposethattheygothere。"(n。454。)"Youarethen,"
  concludesthebourgeois,"againsteducation?""Mostcertainlynot;but,"
  &c。(n。443。)"Butarethey(theemployers)notcompelledtodemandthem(schoolcertificates)?""Bylawtheyare;butIamnotawarethattheyaredemandedbytheemployers。""Thenitisyouropinion,thatthisprovisionoftheActastorequiringcertificates,isnotgenerallycarriedoutinthecollieries?""Itisnotcarriedout。"(ns。443,444。)"Dothementakeagreatinterestinthisquestion(ofeducation)?""Themajorityofthemdo。"(n。717。)"Aretheyveryanxioustoseethelawenforced?"
  "Themajorityare。"(n。718。)"Doyouthinkthatinthiscountryanylawthatyoupass……canreallybeeffectualunlessthepopulationthemselvesassistinputtingitintooperation?""Manyamanmightwishtoobjecttoemployingaboy,buthewouldperhapsbecomemarkedbyit。"(n。720。)
  "Markedb;whom?""Byhisemployers。"(n。721。)
  "Doyouthinkthattheemployerswouldfindanyfaultwithamanwhoobeyedthelaw……?""Ibelievetheywould。"(n。722。)"Haveyoueverheardofanyworkmanobjectingtoemployaboybetween10and12,whocouldnotwriteorread?""Itisnotlefttomen’soption。"(n。123。)"WouldyoucallfortheinterferenceofParliament?""Ithinkthatifanythingeffectualistobedoneintheeducationofthecolliers’’children,itwillhavetobemadecompulsorybyActofParliament。"(n。1634。)"Wouldyoulaythatobligationuponthecolliersonly,oralltheworkpeopleofGreatBritain?""Icametospeakforthecolliers。"(n。1636。)"Whyshouldyoudistinguishthem(collieryboys)fromotherboys?""BecauseIthinktheyareanexceptiontotherule。"(n。1638。)"Inwhatrespect?""Inaphysicalrespect。"(n。1639。)"Whyshouldeducationbemorevaluabletothemthantootherclassesoflads?""Idonotknowthatitismorevaluable;butthroughtheover—exertioninminesthereislesschancefortheboysthatareemployedtheretogeteducation,eitheratSundayschools,oratdayschools。"(n。1640。)"Itisimpossibletolookataquestionofthissortabsolutelybyitself?"(n。1644。)"Isthereasufficiencyofschools?"?"No"……(n。1646)。"IftheStateweretorequirethateverychildshouldbesenttoschool,wouldtherebeschoolsforthechildrentogoto?""No;
  butIthinkifthecircumstancesweretospringup,theschoolswouldbeforthcoming。"(n。1647。)"Someofthem(theboys)cannotreadandwriteatall,Isuppose?""Themajoritycannot……Themajorityofthementhemselvescannot。"(ns。705,725。)
  III。Employmentofwomen。?Since1842womenarenomoreemployedunderground,butareoccupiedonthesurfaceinloadingthecoal,&c。,indrawingthetubstothecanalsandrailwaywaggons,insorting,&c。
  Theirnumbershaveconsiderablyincreasedduringthelastthreeorfouryears。(n。1727。)Theyaremostlythewives,daughters,andwidowsoftheworkingminers,andtheiragesrangefrom12to50or60years。(ns。645,1779。)"Whatisthefeelingamongtheworkingminersastotheemploymentofwomen?""Ithinktheygenerallycondemnit。"(n。648。)"Whatobjectiondoyouseetoit?""Ithinkitisdegradingtothesex。"(n。649。)"Thereisapeculiarityofdress?""Yes……itisratheraman’sdress,andI
  believeinsomecases,itdrownsallsenseofdecency。""Dothewomensmoke?"
  "Somedo。""AndIsupposeitisverydirtywork?""Verydirty。""Theygetblackandgrimy?""Asblackasthosewhoaredownthemines……Ibelievethatawomanhavingchildren(andthereareplentyonthebanksthathave)
  cannotdoherdutytoherchildren。"(ns。650—654,701。)"Doyouthinkthatthosewidowscouldgetemploymentanywhereelse,whichwouldbringtheminasmuchwagesasthat(from8s。to10s。aweek)?""Icannotspeaktothat。"(n。709。)"Youwouldstillbeprepared,woul;you,"
  (flint—heartedfellow!)"topreventtheirobtainingalivelihoodbythesemeans?""Iwould。"(n。710。)"Whatisthegeneralfeelinginthedistrict……astotheemploymentofwomen?""Thefeelingisthatitisdegrading;
  andwewishasminerstohavemorerespecttothefairsexthantoseethemplacedonthepitbank……Somepartoftheworkisveryhard;someofthesegirlshaveraisedasmuchas10tonsofstuffaday。"(ns。1715,1717。)
  "Doyouthinkthatthewomenemployedaboutthecollieriesarelessmoralthanthewomenemployedinthefactories?""……thepercentageofbadonesmaybealittlemore……thanwiththegirlsinthefactories。"(n。1237。)
  "Butyouarenotquitesatisfiedwiththestateofmoralityinthefactories?"
  "No。"(n。1733。)"Wouldyouprohibittheemploymentofwomeninfactoriesalso?""No,Iwouldnot。"(n。1734。)"Whynot?""Ithinkitamorehonourableoccupationfortheminthemills。"(n。1735。)"Stillitisinjurioustotheirmorality,youthink?""Notsomuchasworkingonthepitbank;butitismoreonthesocialpositionItakeit;Idonottakeitonitsmoralgroundalone。Thedegradation,initssocialbearingonthegirls,isdeplorableintheextreme。Whenthese400or500girlsbecomecolliers’wives,themensuffergreatlyfromthisdegradation,anditcausesthemtoleavetheirhomesanddrink。"(n。1736。)"Youwouldbeobligedtostoptheemploymentofwomenintheironworksaswell,wouldyounot,ifyoustoppeditinthecollieries?""Icannotspeakforanyothertrade。"(n。1737。)"Canyouseeanydifferenceinthecircumstancesofwomenemployedinironworks,andthecircumstancesofwomenemployedabovegroundincollieries?""I
  havenotascertainedanythingastothat。"(n。1740。)"Canyouseeanythingthatmakesadistinctionbetweenoneclassandtheother?""Ihavenotascertainedthat,butIknowfromhousetohousevisitation,thatitisadeplorablestateofthingsinourdistrict……"(n。1741。)"Wouldyouinterfereineverycasewiththeemploymentofwomenwherethatemploymentwasdegrading?""Itwouldbecomeinjurious,Ithink,inthisway:thebestfeelingsofEnglishmenhavebeengainedfromtheinstructionofamother……(n。1750。)"Thatequallyappliestoagriculturalemployments,doesitnot?""Yes,butthatisonlyfortwoseasons,andwehaveworkallthefourseasons。"(n。1751。)"Theyoftenworkdayandnight,wetthroughtotheskin,theirconstitutionunderminedandtheirhealthruined。""Youhavenotinquiredintothatsubjectperhaps?""IhavecertainlytakennoteofitasIhavegonealong,andcertainlyIhaveseennothingparalleltotheeffectsoftheemploymentofwomenonthepitbank……Itistheworkofaman……astrongman。"(ns。1753,1793,1794。)"Yourfeelinguponthewholesubjectisthatthebetterclassofcollierswhodesiretoraisethemselvesandhumanisethemselves,insteadofderivinghelpfromthewomen,arepulleddownbythem?""Yes。"(n。1808。)Aftersomefurthercrookedquestionsfromthesebourgeois,thesecretoftheir"sympathy"forwidows,poorfamilies,&c。,comesoutatlast。"Thecoalproprietorappointscertaingentlementotaketheoversightoftheworkings,anditistheirpolicy,inordertoreceiveapprobation,toplacethingsonthemosteconomicalbasistheycan,andthesegirlsareemployedatfrom1s。upto1s。6d。aday,whereamanattherateof2s。6d。adaywouldhavetobeemployed。"(n。1816。)
  IV。Coroner’sinquests。?"Withregardtocoroner’sinquestsinyourdistrict,havetheworkmenconfidenceintheproceedingsatthoseinquestswhenaccidentsoccur?""No;theyhavenot。"(n。360。)"Whynot?"
  "Chieflybecausethemenwhoaregenerallychosen,aremenwhoknownothingaboutminesandsuchlike。""Arenotworkmensummonedatalluponthejuries?"
  "Neverbutaswitnessestomyknowledge。""Whoarethepeoplewhoaregenerallysummoneduponthesejuries?""Generallytradesmenintheneighbourhood……fromtheircircumstancestheyaresometimesliabletobeinfluencedbytheiremployers……theownersoftheworks。Theyaregenerallymenwhohavenoknowledge,andcanscarcelyunderstandthewitnesseswhoarecalledbeforethem,andthetermswhichareusedandsuchlike。""Wouldyouhavethejurycomposedofpersonswhohadbeenemployedinmining?"
  "Yes,partly……they(theworkmen)thinkthattheverdictisnotinaccordancewiththeevidencegivengenerally。"(ns。361,364,366,368,371,375。)
  "Onegreatobjectinsummoningajuryistohaveanimpartialone,isitnot?""Yes,Ishouldthinkso。""Doyouthinkthatthejurieswouldbeimpartialiftheywerecomposedtoaconsiderableextentofworkmen?""I
  cannotseeanymotivewhichtheworkmenwouldhavetoactpartially……
  theynecessarilyhaveabetterknowledgeoftheoperationsinconnexionwiththemine。""Youdonotthinktherewouldbeatendencyonthepartoftheworkmentoreturnunfairlysevereverdicts?""No,Ithinknot。"
  (ns。378,379,380。)
  V。Falseweightsandmeasures。?Theworkmendemandtobepaidweeklyinsteadoffortnightly,andbyweightinsteadofbycubicalcontentsofthetubs;theyalsodemandprotectionagainsttheuseoffalseweights,&c。(n。1071。)"Ifthetubswerefraudulentlyincreased,aman。coulddiscontinueworkingbygiving14days’notice?""Butifhegoestoanotherplace,thereisthesamethinggoingonthere。"(n。1071。)"Buthecanleavethatplacewherethewronghasbeencommitted?""Itisgeneral;whereverhegoes,hehastosubmittoit。"(n。1072。)"Couldamanleavebygiving14days’notice?""Yes。"(n。1073。)Andyettheyarenotsatisfied!
  VI。Inspectionofmines。?Casualtiesfromexplosionsarenottheonlythingstheworkmensufferfrom。(n。234,sqq。)"Ourmencomplainedverymuchofthebadventilationofthecollieries……theventilationi;sobadingeneralthatthemencanscarcelybreathe;
  theyarequiteunfitforemploymentofanykindaftertheyhavebeenforalengthoftimeinconnexionwiththeirwork;indeed,justatthepartoftheminewhereIamworking,menhavebeenobligedtoleavetheiremploymentandcomehomeinconsequenceofthat……someofthemhavebeenoutofworkforweeksjustinconsequenceofthebadstateoftheventilationwherethereisnotexplosivegas……thereisplentyofairgenerallyinthemaincourses,yetpainsarenottakentogetairintotheworkingswheremenareworking。""Whydoyounotapplytotheinspector?""Totellthetruththerearemanymenwhoaretimidonthatpoint;therehavebeencasesofmenbeingsacrificedandlosingtheiremploymentinconsequenceofapplyingtotheinspector。""Whyisheamarkedmanforhavingcomplained?"
  "Yes……Andhefindsitdifficulttogetemploymentinanothermine?"
  "Yes。""DoyouthinktheminesinyourneighbourhoodaresufficientlyinspectedtoinsureacompliancewiththeprovisionsoftheAct?""No;theyarenotinspectedatall……theinspectorhasbeendownjustonceinthepit,andithasbeengoingsevenyears……InthedistricttowhichIbelongtherearenotasufficientnumberofinspectors。Wehaveoneoldmanmorethan70yearsofagetoinspectmorethan130collieries。""Youwishtohaveaclassofsub—inspectors?""Yes。"(ns。234,241,251,254,274,275,554,276,293。)"ButdoyouthinkitwouldbepossibleforGovernmenttomaintainsuchanarmy,ofinspectorsaswouldbenecessarytodoallthatyouwantthemtodo,withoutinformationfromthemen?""No,Ishouldthinkitwouldbenexttoimpossible……""Itwouldbedesirabletheinspectorsshouldcomeoftener?""Yes,andwithoutbeingsentfor。"(n。280,277。)
  "Doyounotthinkthattheeffectofhavingtheseinspectorsexaminingthecollieriessofrequentlywouldbetoshifttheresponsibility(!)ofsupplyingproperventilationfromtheownersofthecollieriestotheGovernmentofficials?""No,Idonotthinkthat,IthinkthattheyshouldmakeittheirbusinesstoenforcetheActswhicharealreadyinexistence。"(n。