Whenspeakingofuninvitingobjects,Imeanthosewhichdonotpassfromonesensationtotheopposite;invitingobjectsarethosewhichdo;inthislattercasethesensecomingupontheobject,whetheratadistanceornear,givesnomorevividideaofanythinginparticularthanofitsopposite。Anillustrationwillmakemymeaningclearer:——herearethreefingers——alittlefinger,asecondfinger,andamiddlefinger。
Verygood。
Youmaysupposethattheyareseenquiteclose:Andherecomesthepoint。
Whatisit?
Eachofthemequallyappearsafinger,whetherseeninthemiddleorattheextremity,whetherwhiteorblack,orthickorthin——itmakesnodifference;afingerisafingerallthesame。Inthesecasesamanisnotcompelledtoaskofthoughtthequestion,whatisafinger?forthesightneverintimatestothemindthatafingerisotherthanafinger。
True。
Andtherefore,Isaid,aswemightexpect,thereisnothingherewhichinvitesorexcitesintelligence。
Thereisnot,hesaid。
Butisthisequallytrueofthegreatnessandsmallnessofthefingers?Cansightadequatelyperceivethem?andisnodifferencemadebythecircumstancethatoneofthefingersisinthemiddleandanotherattheextremity?Andinlikemannerdoesthetouchadequatelyperceivethequalitiesofthicknessorthinness,orsoftnessorhardness?Andsooftheothersenses;dotheygiveperfectintimationsofsuchmatters?Isnottheirmodeofoperationonthiswise——thesensewhichisconcernedwiththequalityofhardnessisnecessarilyconcernedalsowiththequalityofsoftness,andonlyintimatestothesoulthatthesamethingisfelttobebothhardandsoft?
Youarequiteright,hesaid。
Andmustnotthesoulbeperplexedatthisintimationwhichthesensegivesofahardwhichisalsosoft?What,again,isthemeaningoflightandheavy,ifthatwhichislightisalsoheavy,andthatwhichisheavy,light?
Yes,hesaid,theseintimationswhichthesoulreceivesareverycuriousandrequiretobeexplained。
Yes,Isaid,andintheseperplexitiesthesoulnaturallysummonstoheraidcalculationandintelligence,thatshemayseewhethertheseveralobjectsannouncedtoherareoneortwo。
True。
Andiftheyturnouttobetwo,isnoteachofthemoneanddifferent?
Certainly。
Andifeachisone,andbotharetwo,shewillconceivethetwoasinastateofdivision,foriftherewereundividedtheycouldonlybeconceivedofasone?
True。
Theeyecertainlydidseebothsmallandgreat,butonlyinaconfusedmanner;theywerenotdistinguished。
Yes。
Whereasthethinkingmind,intendingtolightupthechaos,wascompelledtoreversetheprocess,andlookatsmallandgreatasseparateandnotconfused。
Verytrue。
Wasnotthisthebeginningoftheenquiry’Whatisgreat?’and’Whatissmall?’
Exactlyso。
Andthusarosethedistinctionofthevisibleandtheintelligible。
Mosttrue。
ThiswaswhatImeantwhenIspokeofimpressionswhichinvitedtheintellect,orthereverse——thosewhicharesimultaneouswithoppositeimpressions,invitethought;thosewhicharenotsimultaneousdonot。
Iunderstand,hesaid,andagreewithyou。
Andtowhichclassdounityandnumberbelong?
Idonotknow,hereplied。
Thinkalittleandyouwillseethatwhathasprecededwillsupplytheanswer;forifsimpleunitycouldbeadequatelyperceivedbythesightorbyanyothersense,then,asweweresayinginthecaseofthefinger,therewouldbenothingtoattracttowardsbeing;butwhenthereissomecontradictionalwayspresent,andoneisthereverseofoneandinvolvestheconceptionofplurality,thenthoughtbeginstobearousedwithinus,andthesoulperplexedandwantingtoarriveatadecisionasks’Whatisabsoluteunity?’Thisisthewayinwhichthestudyoftheonehasapowerofdrawingandconvertingthemindtothecontemplationoftruebeing。
Andsurely,hesaid,thisoccursnotablyinthecaseofone;forweseethesamethingtobebothoneandinfiniteinmultitude?
Yes,Isaid;andthisbeingtrueofonemustbeequallytrueofallnumber?
Certainly。
Andallarithmeticandcalculationhavetodowithnumber?
Yes。
Andtheyappeartoleadthemindtowardstruth?
Yes,inaveryremarkablemanner。
Thenthisisknowledgeofthekindforwhichweareseeking,havingadoubleuse,militaryandphilosophical;forthemanofwarmustlearntheartofnumberorhewillnotknowhowtoarrayhistroops,andthephilosopheralso,becausehehastoriseoutoftheseaofchangeandlayholdoftruebeing,andthereforehemustbeanarithmetician。
Thatistrue。
Andourguardianisbothwarriorandphilosopher?
Certainly。
Thenthisisakindofknowledgewhichlegislationmayfitlyprescribe;andwemustendeavourtopersuadethosewhoareprescribetobetheprincipalmenofourStatetogoandlearnarithmetic,notasamateurs,buttheymustcarryonthestudyuntiltheyseethenatureofnumberswiththemindonly;noragain,likemerchantsorretail—traders,withaviewtobuyingorselling,butforthesakeoftheirmilitaryuse,andofthesoulherself;andbecausethiswillbetheeasiestwayforhertopassfrombecomingtotruthandbeing。
Thatisexcellent,hesaid。
Yes,Isaid,andnowhavingspokenofit,Imustaddhowcharmingthescienceis!andinhowmanywaysitconducestoourdesiredend,ifpursuedinthespiritofaphilosopher,andnotofashopkeeper!
Howdoyoumean?
Imean,asIwassaying,thatarithmetichasaverygreatandelevatingeffect,compellingthesoultoreasonaboutabstractnumber,andrebellingagainsttheintroductionofvisibleortangibleobjectsintotheargument。Youknowhowsteadilythemastersoftheartrepelandridiculeanyonewhoattemptstodivideabsoluteunitywhenheiscalculating,andifyoudivide,theymultiply,takingcarethatoneshallcontinueoneandnotbecomelostinfractions。
Thatisverytrue。
Now,supposeapersonweretosaytothem:Omyfriends,whatarethesewonderfulnumbersaboutwhichyouarereasoning,inwhich,asyousay,thereisaunitysuchasyoudemand,andeachunitisequal,invariable,indivisible,——whatwouldtheyanswer?
Theywouldanswer,asIshouldconceive,thattheywerespeakingofthosenumberswhichcanonlyberealisedinthought。
Thenyouseethatthisknowledgemaybetrulycallednecessary,necessitatingasitclearlydoestheuseofthepureintelligenceintheattainmentofpuretruth?
Yes;thatisamarkedcharacteristicofit。
Andhaveyoufurtherobserved,thatthosewhohaveanaturaltalentforcalculationaregenerallyquickateveryotherkindofknowledge;andeventhedulliftheyhavehadanarithmeticaltraining,althoughtheymayderivenootheradvantagefromit,alwaysbecomemuchquickerthantheywouldotherwisehavebeen。
Verytrue,hesaid。
Andindeed,youwillnoteasilyfindamoredifficultstudy,andnotmanyasdifficult。
Youwillnot。
And,forallthesereasons,arithmeticisakindofknowledgeinwhichthebestnaturesshouldbetrained,andwhichmustnotbegivenup。
Iagree。
Letthisthenbemadeoneofoursubjectsofeducation。Andnext,shallweenquirewhetherthekindredsciencealsoconcernsus?
Youmeangeometry?
Exactlyso。
Clearly,hesaid,weareconcernedwiththatpartofgeometrywhichrelatestowar;forinpitchingacamp,ortakingupaposition,orclosingorextendingthelinesofanarmy,oranyothermilitarymanoeuvre,whetherinactualbattleoronamarch,itwillmakeallthedifferencewhetherageneralisorisnotageometrician。
Yes,Isaid,butforthatpurposeaverylittleofeithergeometryorcalculationwillbeenough;thequestionrelatesrathertothegreaterandmoreadvancedpartofgeometry——whetherthattendsinanydegreetomakemoreeasythevisionoftheideaofgood;andthither,asIwassaying,allthingstendwhichcompelthesoultoturnhergazetowardsthatplace,whereisthefullperfectionofbeing,whichsheought,byallmeans,tobehold。
True,hesaid。
Thenifgeometrycompelsustoviewbeing,itconcernsus;ifbecomingonly,itdoesnotconcernus?
Yes,thatiswhatweassert。
Yetanybodywhohastheleastacquaintancewithgeometrywillnotdenythatsuchaconceptionofthescienceisinflatcontradictiontotheordinarylanguageofgeometricians。
Howso?
Theyhaveinviewpracticeonly,andarealwaysspeaking?inanarrowandridiculousmanner,ofsquaringandextendingandapplyingandthelike——theyconfusethenecessitiesofgeometrywiththoseofdailylife;whereasknowledgeistherealobjectofthewholescience。
Certainly,hesaid。
Thenmustnotafurtheradmissionbemade?
Whatadmission?
Thattheknowledgeatwhichgeometryaimsisknowledgeoftheeternal,andnotofaughtperishingandtransient。
That,hereplied,maybereadilyallowed,andistrue。
Then,mynoblefriend,geometrywilldrawthesoultowardstruth,andcreatethespiritofphilosophy,andraiseupthatwhichisnowunhappilyallowedtofalldown。
Nothingwillbemorelikelytohavesuchaneffect。
Thennothingshouldbemoresternlylaiddownthanthattheinhabitantsofyourfaircityshouldbyallmeanslearngeometry。
Moreoverthesciencehasindirecteffects,whicharenotsmall。
Ofwhatkind?hesaid。
Therearethemilitaryadvantagesofwhichyouspoke,Isaid;andinalldepartmentsofknowledge,asexperienceproves,anyonewhohasstudiedgeometryisinfinitelyquickerofapprehensionthanonewhohasnot。
Yesindeed,hesaid,thereisaninfinitedifferencebetweenthem。
Thenshallweproposethisasasecondbranchofknowledgewhichouryouthwillstudy?
Letusdoso,hereplied。
Andsupposewemakeastronomythethird——whatdoyousay?
Iamstronglyinclinedtoit,hesaid;theobservationoftheseasonsandofmonthsandyearsisasessentialtothegeneralasitistothefarmerorsailor。
Iamamused,Isaid,atyourfearoftheworld,whichmakesyouguardagainsttheappearanceofinsistinguponuselessstudies;andIquiteadmitthedifficultyofbelievingthatineverymanthereisaneyeofthesoulwhich,whenbyotherpursuitslostanddimmed,isbythesepurifiedandre—illumined;andismorepreciousfarthantenthousandbodilyeyes,forbyitaloneistruthseen。Nowtherearetwoclassesofpersons:oneclassofthosewhowillagreewithyouandwilltakeyourwordsasarevelation;anotherclasstowhomtheywillbeutterlyunmeaning,andwhowillnaturallydeemthemtobeidletales,fortheyseenosortofprofitwhichistobeobtainedfromthem。Andthereforeyouhadbetterdecideatoncewithwhichofthetwoyouareproposingtoargue。Youwillverylikelysaywithneither,andthatyourchiefaimincarryingontheargumentisyourownimprovement;atthesametimeyoudonotgrudgetoothersanybenefitwhichtheymayreceive。
IthinkthatIshouldprefertocarryontheargumentmainlyonmyownbehalf。
Thentakeastepbackward,forwehavegonewrongintheorderofthesciences。
Whatwasthemistake?hesaid。
Afterplanegeometry,Isaid,weproceededatoncetosolidsinrevolution,insteadoftakingsolidsinthemselves;whereasaftertheseconddimensionthethird,whichisconcernedwithcubesanddimensionsofdepth,oughttohavefollowed。
Thatistrue,Socrates;butsolittleseemstobeknownasyetaboutthesesubjects。
Why,yes,Isaid,andfortworeasons:——inthefirstplace,nogovernmentpatronisesthem;thisleadstoawantofenergyinthepursuitofthem,andtheyaredifficult;inthesecondplace,studentscannotlearnthemunlesstheyhaveadirector。Butthenadirectorcanhardlybefound,andevenifhecould,asmattersnowstand,thestudents,whoareveryconceited,wouldnotattendtohim。That,however,wouldbeotherwiseifthewholeStatebecamethedirectorofthesestudiesandgavehonourtothem;thendiscipleswouldwanttocome,andtherewouldbecontinuousandearnestsearch,anddiscoverieswouldbemade;sinceevennow,disregardedastheyarebytheworld,andmaimedoftheirfairproportions,andalthoughnoneoftheirvotariescantelltheuseofthem,stillthesestudiesforcetheirwaybytheirnaturalcharm,andverylikely,iftheyhadthehelpoftheState,theywouldsomedayemergeintolight。
Yes,hesaid,thereisaremarkablecharminthem。ButIdonotclearlyunderstandthechangeintheorder。Firstyoubeganwithageometryofplanesurfaces?
Yes,Isaid。
Andyouplacedastronomynext,andthenyoumadeastepbackward?
Yes,andIhavedelayedyoubymyhurry;theludicrousstateofsolidgeometry,which,innaturalorder,shouldhavefollowed,mademepassoverthisbranchandgoontoastronomy,ormotionofsolids。
True,hesaid。
ThenassumingthatthesciencenowomittedwouldcomeintoexistenceifencouragedbytheState,letusgoontoastronomy,whichwillbefourth。
Therightorder,hereplied。Andnow,Socrates,asyourebukedthevulgarmannerinwhichIpraisedastronomybefore,mypraiseshallbegiveninyourownspirit。Foreveryone,asIthink,mustseethatastronomycompelsthesoultolookupwardsandleadsusfromthisworldtoanother。
Everyonebutmyself,Isaid;toeveryoneelsethismaybeclear,butnottome。
Andwhatthenwouldyousay?
Ishouldrathersaythatthosewhoelevateastronomyintophilosophyappeartometomakeuslookdownwardsandnotupwards。
Whatdoyoumean?heasked。
You,Ireplied,haveinyourmindatrulysublimeconceptionofourknowledgeofthethingsabove。AndIdaresaythatifapersonweretothrowhisheadbackandstudythefrettedceiling,youwouldstillthinkthathismindwasthepercipient,andnothiseyes。Andyouareverylikelyright,andImaybeasimpleton:but,inmyopinion,thatknowledgeonlywhichisofbeingandoftheunseencanmakethesoullookupwards,andwhetheramangapesattheheavensorblinksontheground,seekingtolearnsomeparticularofsense,Iwoulddenythathecanlearn,fornothingofthatsortismatterofscience;hissoulislookingdownwards,notupwards,whetherhiswaytoknowledgeisbywaterorbyland,whetherhefloats,oronlyliesonhisback。
Iacknowledge,hesaid,thejusticeofyourrebuke。Still,I
shouldliketoascertainhowastronomycanbelearnedinanymannermoreconducivetothatknowledgeofwhichwearespeaking?
Iwilltellyou,Isaid:Thestarryheavenwhichwebeholdiswroughtuponavisibleground,andtherefore,althoughthefairestandmostperfectofvisiblethings,mustnecessarilybedeemedinferiorfartothetruemotionsofabsoluteswiftnessandabsoluteslowness,whicharerelativetoeachother,andcarrywiththemthatwhichiscontainedinthem,inthetruenumberandineverytruefigure。Now,thesearetobeapprehendedbyreasonandintelligence,butnotbysight。
True,hereplied。
Thespangledheavensshouldbeusedasapatternandwithaviewtothathigherknowledge;theirbeautyislikethebeautyoffiguresorpicturesexcellentlywroughtbythehandofDaedalus,orsomeothergreatartist,whichwemaychancetobehold;anygeometricianwhosawthemwouldappreciatetheexquisitenessoftheirworkmanship,buthewouldneverdreamofthinkingthatinthemhecouldfindthetrueequalorthetruedouble,orthetruthofanyotherproportion。
No,hereplied,suchanideawouldberidiculous。
Andwillnotatrueastronomerhavethesamefeelingwhenhelooksatthemovementsofthestars?WillhenotthinkthatheavenandthethingsinheavenareframedbytheCreatoroftheminthemostperfectmanner?Buthewillneverimaginethattheproportionsofnightandday,orofbothtothemonth,orofthemonthtotheyear,orofthestarstotheseandtooneanother,andanyotherthingsthatarematerialandvisiblecanalsobeeternalandsubjecttonodeviation——thatwouldbeabsurd;anditisequallyabsurdtotakesomuchpainsininvestigatingtheirexacttruth。
Iquiteagree,thoughIneverthoughtofthisbefore。
Then,Isaid,inastronomy,asingeometry,weshouldemployproblems,andlettheheavensaloneifwewouldapproachthesubjectintherightwayandsomakethenaturalgiftofreasontobeofanyrealuse。
That,hesaid,isaworkinfinitelybeyondourpresentastronomers。
Yes,Isaid;andtherearemanyotherthingswhichmustalsohaveasimilarextensiongiventothem,ifourlegislationistobeofanyvalue。Butcanyoutellmeofanyothersuitablestudy?
No,hesaid,notwithoutthinking。
Motion,Isaid,hasmanyforms,andnotoneonly;twoofthemareobviousenougheventowitsnobetterthanours;andthereareothers,asIimagine,whichmaybelefttowiserpersons。
Butwherearethetwo?
Thereisasecond,Isaid,whichisthecounterpartoftheonealreadynamed。
Andwhatmaythatbe?
Thesecond,Isaid,wouldseemrelativelytotheearstobewhatthefirstistotheeyes;forIconceivethatastheeyesaredesignedtolookupatthestars,soaretheearstohearharmoniousmotions;
andthesearesistersciences——asthePythagoreanssay,andwe,Glaucon,agreewiththem?
Yes,hereplied。
Butthis,Isaid,isalaboriousstudy,andthereforewehadbettergoandlearnofthem;andtheywilltelluswhetherthereareanyotherapplicationsofthesesciences。Atthesametime,wemustnotlosesightofourownhigherobject。
Whatisthat?
Thereisaperfectionwhichallknowledgeoughttoreach,andwhichourpupilsoughtalsotoattain,andnottofallshortof,asIwassayingthattheydidinastronomy。Forinthescienceofharmony,asyouprobablyknow,thesamethinghappens。Theteachersofharmonycomparethesoundsandconsonanceswhichareheardonly,andtheirlabour,likethatoftheastronomers,isinvain。
Yes,byheaven!hesaid;and’tisasgoodasaplaytohearthemtalkingabouttheircondensednotes,astheycallthem;theyputtheirearsclosealongsideofthestringslikepersonscatchingasoundfromtheirneighbour’swall——onesetofthemdeclaringthattheydistinguishanintermediatenoteandhavefoundtheleastintervalwhichshouldbetheunitofmeasurement;theothersinsistingthatthetwosoundshavepassedintothesame——eitherpartysettingtheirearsbeforetheirunderstanding。
Youmean,Isaid,thosegentlemenwhoteaseandtorturethestringsandrackthemonthepegsoftheinstrument:mightcarryonthemetaphorandspeakaftertheirmanneroftheblowswhichtheplectrumgives,andmakeaccusationsagainstthestrings,bothofbackwardnessandforwardnesstosound;butthiswouldbetedious,andthereforeIwillonlysaythatthesearenotthemen,andthatI
amreferringtothePythagoreans,ofwhomIwasjustnowproposingtoenquireaboutharmony。Fortheytooareinerror,liketheastronomers;theyinvestigatethenumbersoftheharmonieswhichareheard,buttheyneverattaintoproblems—thatistosay,theyneverreachthenaturalharmoniesofnumber,orreflectwhysomenumbersareharmoniousandothersnot。
That,hesaid,isathingofmorethanmortalknowledge。
Athing,Ireplied,whichIwouldrathercalluseful;thatis,ifsoughtafterwithaviewtothebeautifulandgood;butifpursuedinanyotherspirit,useless。Verytrue,hesaid。
Now,whenallthesestudiesreachthepointofinter—communionandconnectionwithoneanother,andcometobeconsideredintheirmutualaffinities,then,Ithink,butnottillthen,willthepursuitofthemhaveavalueforourobjects;otherwisethereisnoprofitinthem。
Isuspectso;butyouarespeaking,Socrates,ofavastwork。
Whatdoyoumean?Isaid;thepreludeorwhat?Doyounotknowthatallthisisbutthepreludetotheactualstrainwhichwehavetolearn?Foryousurelywouldnotregardtheskilledmathematicianasadialectician?
Assuredlynot,hesaid;Ihavehardlyeverknownamathematicianwhowascapableofreasoning。
Butdoyouimaginethatmenwhoareunabletogiveandtakeareasonwillhavetheknowledgewhichwerequireofthem?
Neithercanthisbesupposed。
Andso,Glaucon,Isaid,wehaveatlastarrivedatthehymnofdialectic。Thisisthatstrainwhichisoftheintellectonly,butwhichthefacultyofsightwillneverthelessbefoundtoimitate;
forsight,asyoumayremember,wasimaginedbyusafterawhiletobeholdtherealanimalsandstars,andlastofallthesunhimself。
Andsowithdialectic;whenapersonstartsonthediscoveryoftheabsolutebythelightofreasononly,andwithoutanyassistanceofsense,andperseveresuntilbypureintelligencehearrivesattheperceptionoftheabsolutegood,heatlastfindshimselfattheendoftheintellectualworld,asinthecaseofsightattheendofthevisible。
Exactly,hesaid。
Thenthisistheprogresswhichyoucalldialectic?
True。
Butthereleaseoftheprisonersfromchains,andtheirtranslationfromtheshadowstotheimagesandtothelight,andtheascentfromtheundergrounddentothesun,whileinhispresencetheyarevainlytryingtolookonanimalsandplantsandthelightofthesun,butareabletoperceiveevenwiththeirweakeyestheimagesinthewater(whicharedivine),andaretheshadowsoftrueexistence(notshadowsofimagescastbyalightoffire,whichcomparedwiththesunisonlyanimage)——thispowerofelevatingthehighestprincipleinthesoultothecontemplationofthatwhichisbestinexistence,withwhichwemaycomparetheraisingofthatfacultywhichistheverylightofthebodytothesightofthatwhichisbrightestinthematerialandvisibleworld——thispowerisgiven,asIwassaying,byallthatstudyandpursuitoftheartswhichhasbeendescribed。
Iagreeinwhatyouaresaying,hereplied,whichmaybehardtobelieve,yet,fromanotherpointofview,isharderstilltodeny。
This,however,isnotathemetobetreatedofinpassingonly,butwillhavetobediscussedagainandagain。Andso,whetherourconclusionbetrueorfalse,letusassumeallthis,andproceedatoncefromthepreludeorpreambletothechiefstrain,anddescribethatinlikemanner。Say,then,whatisthenatureandwhatarethedivisionsofdialectic,andwhatarethepathswhichleadthither;forthesepathswillalsoleadtoourfinalrest?
DearGlaucon,Isaid,youwillnotbeabletofollowmehere,thoughIwoulddomybest,andyoushouldbeholdnotanimageonlybuttheabsolutetruth,accordingtomynotion。WhetherwhatItoldyouwouldorwouldnothavebeenarealityIcannotventuretosay;butyouwouldhaveseensomethinglikereality;ofthatIamconfident。
Doubtless,hereplied。
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